Showing posts with label user generated content. Show all posts
Showing posts with label user generated content. Show all posts

December 14, 2007

Google Knol - Wikipedia and Wikia killer?

From http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2007/12/encouraging-people-to-contribute.html:
Earlier this week, we started inviting a selected group of people to try a new, free tool that we are calling "knol", which stands for a unit of knowledge. Our goal is to encourage people who know a particular subject to write an authoritative article about it. The tool is still in development and this is just the first phase of testing. For now, using it is by invitation only.

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At the discretion of the author, a knol may include ads. If an author chooses to include ads, Google will provide the author with substantial revenue share from the proceeds of those ads.


From http://www.micropersuasion.com/2007/12/wikipedia-and-w.html:
Still, with this move Google is clearly targeting Wikipedia (which is perhaps their biggest rival) and quite possibly is trying to ensure that Jimmy Wales' forthcoming social search engine, Wikia, is dead on arrival. Consider the timing of this announcement.


From http://www.asourceofinspiration.com/2007/12/14/do-you-knols/:
authors have earned their recognition as the most important source of knowledge, and if they choose to abandon the academic walled gardens, then Google will be one step closer to “organize the world’s information and make it universally accessible and useful“.


From http://coolmel.zaadz.com/blog/2007/12/integral_knol:
This is Google’s direct assault at the “walled garden” of knowledge like Wikipedia, Wikia, and Squidoo. Knol will attempt to solve the problem of chaotic collective anonymous editing (and vandalizing) of wikis and its unfriendly user interface by providing a more user-friendly editing tool for knowledgeable authors “who will put their reputation on the line.”


From http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2007/12/google_knol_tak.php:
The big distinction with Wikipedia is that Knol relies on individual authors rather than "the crowd." Each article, or "knol," will be signed and owned by the person who writes it, and articles on the same subject will compete with one another for viewer's eyes. In contrast, Wikipedia builds a single version of each article in a communal way with many edits by anonymous contributors.


Finaly, my favourite, from http://www.stoweboyd.com/message/2007/12/google-attacks.html:
There is a large web world out here, with gazillions of people -- like me -- who are disinclined to play in the Wikipedia sandpile. While I agree that things can be messy, I don't think that the messiness of our understanding of the world is an implediment to Google's idea here. All that is necessary is people willing to author snippets within knol, and for others to read and rate them. That's the core dynamic of all social media-based activities on the web. Google is the just the first to be in a position to be able to make a credible effort to blogify human knowledge, just as Wikipedia has been working to wikify it.

I vote for blogifying, instead of wikifying.


I don't know how to you feel about this, but I do think there are wikipeople and blogopeople, and if for ones wikipedia is better, for the others Knol is going to be better. I think that they'll cohexist, but in the long term I think that Knol is going to "win". Not that it matters, tho, what's important is to have more and better data, and Knol is even helping improve Wikipedia's quality on the long term. I, for one, am going to be a Knol writter for sure, and my (few) contributions to wikipedia are going to keep diminishing.

April 26, 2007

eefoof turns VuMe


Last year I wrote about a new social web site called eefoof, where I said that it was both an exciting concept but also criticized it a lot in several things that they should have addressed before having the exposure they had. One year later, we can see in eefoof's website:

First off, I just want to say thank you for your continued support of the site. I started eefoof.com with the belief that it should pay to be creative — now we're taking eefoof to the next generation of media sharing. We've listened to your feedback and we have a cooler interface, faster load times and easier uploading. To help us launch our version 2.0, we have a whole new name:

Introducing VuMe.com ("view me"). It's easier to pronounce and easier to remember. VuMe is now a one-stop media posting site for video, audio, photos and blogs.

Here are some of the features you can expect. A user blogging platform, a faster/higher-quality transcoder for video/audio, a sleek AJAX upload interface, and many more additions to the site to make everything accessible and convenient. No matter what kind of media you post - video, audio, images or blogs - you'll get paid for it, based on the traffic it generates. After all, if we make our money from advertising, so should you.

At VuMe.com, we have an ongoing commitment to share our success. As we generate money, so will you. That's just one of the many differences that makes VuMe stand apart. Here's to our mutual success on VuMe.com. See you on the site!


Since I was quite critic on the service, but pointing out what was IMHO wrong about it, they've sent me out an e-mail, from which I'll post some "can be public" quotes:

First off, I just want to say thank you for your continued support of the site. I started eefoof.com with the belief that it should pay to be creative Ñ now we're taking eefoof to the next generation of media sharing. We've listened to your feedback and we have a cooler interface, faster load times and easier uploading. To help us launch our version 2.0, we have a whole new name:

Introducing VuMe.com ("view me"). It's easier to pronounce and easier to remember. VuMe is now a one-stop media posting site for video, audio, photos and blogs.

Here are some of the features you can expect. A user blogging platform, a faster/higher-quality transcoder for video/audio, a sleek AJAX upload interface, and many more additions to the site to make everything accessible and convenient. No matter what kind of media you post - video, audio, images or blogs - you'll get paid for it, based on the traffic it generates. After all, if we make our money from advertising, so should you.

At VuMe.com, we have an ongoing commitment to share our success. As we generate money, so will you. That's just one of the many differences that makes VuMe stand apart. Here's to our mutual success on VuMe.com. See you on the site!

Promising, it seems. While I was writting this, tho, Paula registred and is now facing so many "Oops, we had a little problem" messages that turns VuMe quite unusable... Maybe they still didn't get it right?

For eefoof I wrote:
they should had risk more and not only wait to get a more-beta less-alpha application, but mainly not to make the apliccation in such a raw-state to be widely reviewed (by being digg'ed and /.'ed)


Twice in a row? I don't know - She registred from scratch and is using Safari, I'm using Iceape and migrated my eefoof account to the new VuMe.

OK, I've tracked down that bug:

If you use that checkbox...

Oops! It looks like there is a problem.

* MDB2 Error: no such field in query:
_doQuery: [Error message: Could not execute statement] [Last executed query: UPDATE users SET bio = '', email = 'marcos.marado@sonae.com', comment_notify = '1', location = 'Portugal', website = '' WHERE id = 'MindBoosterNoori'] [Native code: 1054] [Native message: Unknown column 'comment_notify' in 'field list']

Another bug: I've tried to upload a song, and when it ended, I've got a blank page telling:

wget --spider "http://tc1.vume.com/audio/process/38/brixwEX6Yq/" > /dev/null &

WTF? Hmm, seems still in alpha stage to me... Maybe next year?